Monday, April 11, 2011
Antigone - Pesonal Experience
The following is a quote from Antigone. It is part of one of the Chorus' speeches: "For what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape." Read the quote very carefully... Think about what it says... Write a response that explains what the quote means and whether you agree or disagree with the meaning. You are are expected to expand on the DO NOW writing prompt from class. Be sure to give lots of specific examples from the play to support whatever point of view you wish to express.
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What I think the quote mean is that no matter what, man cannot escape destiny. It will ony catch up to you in the end if you try to run from it. I also think that trying to run from it might make it come true faster than if yo didnt do anything to change it. For example, in Oedipus, he attempted to escape his own destiny by moving away but ened up fulfilling it anyway. I agree with the meaning because destiny is not something you can easily escape from. I beleive destiny is real, yet you unconciously choose your own fate because of the coices you make in life. If you make bad choices, you will have a bad destiny. If you make good choices, you will have a good destiny. One eample from Antigone is that her destiny is that she is ultimatly going to die from the choice of buring her brother. This could be seen as bad because she is about to die, yet also good because she is doing what she thinks is right.
ReplyDelete“For what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape.” In other words, men do not have the power to evade their fate. Fate is often defined as the events in one’s life that are beyond his or her control. The controlling force in which this definition refers to is a supernatural power, and according to the Ancient Greek stories of Oedipus and Antigone, this force is the gods. As mentioned in the prologue and odes of Antigone by the sentry and choragos, the gods held accountable for the curse placed on Oedipus’ family. Although Oedipus tries to escape his destiny by running away from home, he is ultimately unable to curtain himself from his fate, causing him to kill his father and marry his mother. Like her father Oedipus, Antigone is also unable to run from her predetermined life. Although we have only been slightly exposed to Antigone’s character and fate, it is clear that she was meant to leave her brother Polynices to rot on the ground rather than provide him with a proper burial. By remaining true to her and her family, Antigone goes against her fate and ultimately must accept defeat. Despite the examples provided in both Oedipus and Antigone, I still am unsure about how strongly I agree and disagree with the power of fate. While I agree with and believe that some individuals have set pathways in which their lives follow either consciously or unconsciously, I have yet to experience one of these moments. There have been times when friends or family members have shared stories with me about moments when they knew they were in that moment for a specific reason, and because I haven’t experienced one of those moments, I don’t fully agree with the power of fate. Maybe my predetermined fate simply hasn’t taken over my life yet, or maybe I don’t have a set path to follow, but regardless this, I believe that the power of supernatural forces and gods do not have a strong impact on my life. As I’ve grown older and begun making my own decisions rather than having decisions made for me, I’ve acted on my beliefs and my likes or dislikes. I tend to follow what I feel is the right thing to do, and so far this has not led me to a place where I feel as though I am meant to be. My decisions in life have allowed me to explore different hobbies and interact with different people, and while I do believe that I was meant to do certain things, I don’t believe that it is because of supernatural forces or gods looking down on me.
ReplyDeleteI believe this quote is specifying that no human can escape their fate. A prime example of this is when Oedipus learns about his destiny. He tried avoiding it by running away but at the end he winds up carrying out his fate even though he did everything to escape it. I believe that we can’t create our destiny. Even though we can plan out our future, it won’t occur perfectly how we planned it. Some unpredictable events lie ahead that may change our plans. However many perceive fate based on their belief and personal experiences.
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"For what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape." I agree with the meaning of this quote. the meaning being that us being mortal meaning that we all must die and we cannot escape our destiny to die of fail a task ect. no matter how hard we try. in some occasions by trying to escape our destiny we make it come true. For example Oedipus tries to escape his fate of killing his father and marrying his mother and by doing so he makes it come true and because of all the misfortune in his family between Oedipus' curse to wander without a home and the death of his sons Etocles and Polynicies the family was destined to be curse. This is the view of Ismene when Antigone wants to defy the law to bury her brother and face the consequence of death. In Ismene's eyes she is just carrying on her family's destiny of misfortune through their generation. although i think that the threat of destiny was more of a threat in ancient times because with so much uncertainty about the future people looked to the Gods for answers and wanted desperately to find them. although now a days it seems that people go with the flow. For example if some one in the greek era heard their destiny was to get sick they would do everything in their power to make sure that didn't happen. Now we let ourselves get sick to get out of class because we know we can get better anyway regardless of how severe of our condition. Us being mortal men have no control of what happens next and how it will affect us. our journy through life is planned out by a series of actions that we will do regardless. but what is the rue curiosity that question that still plagues man kind to day. the question WHY!
ReplyDeleteIt was stated in the novel, “for what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape.” In other words, men must accept their fate because they can not avoid it. It can be supported that fate is portrayed as eminetly strong and powerful, thus this force controls anybody’s future with the predestination and include a series of planned events that are uncontrollable by mortals. Sometime the fate is known as supernatural or magical according to Oedipus and Antigone. When encountering with fate, there are no loop holes or alternatives to manuever around. For example in the story of Oedipus we learned that as a young baby he and his family learned his destiny of killing his father and marrying his mother. Oedipus tried everything in his will to attempt to change his fate but it was too powerful to dismiss. He ran away, however he was tricked into persuing his unfortunate fate. In the end fate and destiny could be primarily good or bad. I have not personally learned my fate but I don’t rely on the greater power to change who I am or affect my fate but I do believe that everything happens for a reason.
ReplyDeleteThe quote "for what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape." IN other words, people in general should accept their fate because what ever they are destined for will happen one way or the other. Fate is what is going to happen in your life with everything you do wether it be being born dying on a certain day getting a certain job etc. All of those things happen for a reason wether you like or not they will happen and all of those things will eventually get you though life even though it may not sound good at the time but eventually things will work out most of the time. I would say that I agree with this statement because everything happens for a reason and that is what fate is and that is what is being explained in this quote.
ReplyDeleteAs i said earlier in class today fate is impossible to escape, because if you try to change your fate your fate would be to change your fate, same for if you try to run from your fate. Also by changing your fate you would accomplish nothing because if you change your fate your fate would have been to change your fate all along therefore fate is impossible to change or escape. This reminds me of how Oedipus tried to run from his fate and ended up killing his father anyway, this is because his fate was to try to run and change his fate. Also in the movie the Adjustment Bureau the main character and the woman who he loves are supposedly not fated to be together and their fate was to try to fight against the bureau and to be together in the end anyways. -Theo Gevirtz
ReplyDelete"For what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape." To me this quote says that no man can change their fate for it's their fate to meet their fate.....hmmm, vexing?!?!?!?!? Anyway, in the story of our poor friend oedipus he tragically meets his fate thinking he would dodge it by leaving his parents, but the thing he does not know is that they are not his real parents, unfortunately he does meet his fate blah, blah, blah, we know how this ends. I agree with the fact that it is unfortunately impossible to try to get around you're fate, because fate is fate, you have a plan set from the day you are born and it is destiny to follow it. For example the adjustment bureau, Matt Damon had a set plan sure because it's a movie it had to end all nice, but If that was real life I believe he would have never been with that girl. All of this speculation doesn't matter, what matters is you're beliefs and ideas that count.
ReplyDelete“For what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape”, can be translated to mean that humans can not get away from their destiny, despite how much we may want to at times. I somewhat agree with the idea that what is meant to be will always find its way, and will admit that it is comforting to believe that everything is taken care of and will fall into place. Although I personally see destiny as a relief of sorts, Antigone and Oedipus want nothing more than to escape what they know is undoubtedly going to occur. Oedipus attempting to run from his fate actually ended up being what caused him to unknowingly kill his father and marry his mother, like he was destined to do. On the other hand, Antigone has not attempted to escape her destiny yet, because she isn’t really aware of what it is. I believe that her destiny was to go against Creon’s law and be an example as well as an inspiration for others, to show them how courage can triumph even when you are a women in a mans world, and have broken a rule that is punishable by death.
ReplyDelete"For what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape." This means that everyone is born with a fate which is predestined and different for each individual. Everything that people do is for a reason and it is impossible to change the destiny of yourself or others if that is their fate. For example, Oedipus attempted to change his fate but he failed because it is impossible to change. Knowing that his fate was to kill his father and marry his mother, Oedipus left the parent who adopted him to escape his fate but instead unknowingly killed his real father. I agree with this quote because I believe that fate is real and it is impossible to escape.
ReplyDeleteFor what is destined for us, men mortal, there is no escape." This quote is saying that you cannot escape your destiny. For example, Oedipus, although he knew his destiny and tried so desperately to escape it, he was unable too. In some ways, him trying to avoid his destiny is actually what caused him to receive it. And as I said in class, this reminds me of a show called That's So Raven. In the show, Raven would have visions of the future, however she was not able o see the journey or path that had taken her there. More often than not, her attempt to change the situation is in fact what led her to it actually happening. This concept makes me believe that maybe knowing your future is not always a good thing. Perhaps it's best to ride the wave of life and see how things turn out in the end. Because I knew if something bad was going to happen to me, I would be so concerned with trying to prevent it from happening, that I would probably end up missing out on the joys of life. This connects to another part of the tale. This is because Oedipus, unfortunately, had to miss out on getting to know and love his adopted family.
ReplyDeleteas the qoute " for what is destined/ for us, men mortal, there is no escape", i belive this is true. and this is true because if one works hard, and becomes all that one can be then that is that persons destany. on the other hand your destany can also be bad if its mento to be bad so it best to let it be and follow your heart.
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This quote to me is explaing how no man can run from what fate has in stored for him. From the day that a person is born their fate is already sealed there is nothing you can do to stop it or change your fate. You can try to slow it down but what has to happen will happen fate is a unstopable force, for example ive been in and out of so many school and everytime i got kicked out of school i went to another school just to avoid this school and the funny thing is no matter what i did i still ended up here in harrison.
ReplyDeleteI think this quote is saying that every man has their own fate and there is no way they can escape. Every man was put on this earth for a reason and they must follow their destiny to fulfill this reason.sometimes someones fate is effected by the decisions they make in life. For example oedipus' fate was to kill his father and marry his mother. There was nothing he could do to prevent this from happening. No matter what he did it still would have happened. There was no escape. -olivia manley
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